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So, some of you probably noticed that I wasn't at ritual yesterday. Part of the reason was that Fiona really wasn't quite back to herself and needed some quiet time; the other reason was that I was at home, being in love with my house.

Saturday afternoon, I decided not to nap after all (gasp!) and went to Home Depot instead -- where I purchased a heat gun and a wallpaper steamer. After some thought over the last few days, we'd realized that winter would be a great time to begin stripping down the interior of the house. That means we'll be ready to paint and refinish and such as soon as spring rolls around and we can get the foundation fixed. Steaming off wallpaper and melting linoleum off hardwood floors is tough work, but it's cheap (less than $100 up front for equipment and trash bags) and can be done a bit at a time.

Living with temporary ugliness is a small price to pay for finally getting started. This is what I would have wanted to do a year or so ago, but we were busy growing a baby and trying not to go bankrupt...

So now I can protest that my house is a mess not because I'm a lackadaisical housekeeper, but because we have home improvement projects going on, dammit. The crazy project list goes something like this (items appear in no particular order):

Items appear in no particular order:

1. Organize linen closet and crap hallway again (figure out another sewing location?)
2. Basement cleaning — will involve a lot of bleach and organizing; purchase of some Rubbermaid storage boxes (for water-tightness); re-shelving a few areas; maybe installation of some lighting?
3. Removal of wallpaper all over the fecking place — need to price and purchase a good steamer. Yeah, I know it’ll make things ugly for a while until we can resurface/repaint, but this is something we can do a bit at a time pretty cheaply.
4. Removal of linoleum flooring in hallway and entryway — need to price and purchase a good heat gun
5. Redo upstairs bathroom - lay down a new floor (can probably go on top of vinyl already there bc it's in good condition and pretty level); repaint walls (tile can stay); put up new shade and curtain
6. Remove tile in downstairs bathroom. Again, temporary ugliness is an acceptable price for feeling progress, IMHO.
7. Pull up living room carpet and put down an area rug instead. This is more practical now that Kira is walking so much more than crawling.
8. Strip and refinish some bits of furniture - Andrew’s old coffeetable; some of the dining room chairs (not the newer ones, not the red ones)
9. Begin replacing shades and making curtains for rooms. It’s about time.
10 Reclaim the damn porch for human use again.

After foundation work (which I honestly hope will incorporate pouring a new floor for the basement so it’ll be readier to finish):

1. Painting downstairs
2. Stripping and repainting kitchen cupboards? Replacing cupboards?
3. Resurface entryway (better as tile or something, I think)

Expensive things; things requiring outside help

1. Refinish downstairs wood floors; pull up kitchen floor and refinish??
2. Redo upstairs bedrooms - gut walls and add insulation; put up drywall and install new windows; repaint; new carpet
3. Expand downstairs office - knock down walls into closets and crap hallway; incorporate into a single room with crafting/sewing area? (or perhaps break up into two rooms?)
4. Finish basement - What do we want to do down there? Workbench, brewing area, play area, etc.? - perhaps relocate some walls and install some built-in cupboards/storage instead of haphazard shelving all over the place (do we really need to keep the piano?); replace windows; improve lighting; insulate walls, add drywall; pad the floor and add carpet (carpet tiles?)

Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drummel.livejournal.com
Looks like lots of fun work is ahead, :). I offer my assistance in any way possible in the comming months, yet I cannot say when until I have atleast an idea of a future schedule.. Although I am not as enthusiastic as some..*cough, cough. Via..cough cough* who drool at the chance of doing some good ole hands on home remodeling; I do enjoy being involved in projects. I'm sure something can be organized later, BOTE. :)

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saffronhare.livejournal.com
Help will be welcome, but this is sort of a months-long thing. I'm obsessive about it for now, but will need to pace myself better during the week if I expect to be able to lift my arms at work or have any clean laundry at all.

For starters, the dining room had two coats of paint over two layers of wallpaper (the bottom layer being about as thick as a paper bag). The dining room walls are nearly naked now, but then there's some paint-stripping to do on trip in there (I'm wondering what the wood looks like). Preliminary tests indicate at least one coat of paint plus at least one layer of wallpaper on every wall and ceiling downstairs and on the stairs. We'll be leaving the paper on the ceilings, but just about all of the rest of it is going. Plenty of work to go around for a long, long time!

Months? Looks like years...

Date: 2004-01-05 08:36 am (UTC)
ext_3038: Red Panda with the captain "Oh Hai!" (something constructive - from snoki)
From: [identity profile] triadruid.livejournal.com
Either you're more ambitious than I ever realized, or you've got help coming from more quarters than realized.

Either is really possible, of course. You're a bad motherfucker (see next post).

Re: Months? Looks like years...

Date: 2004-01-05 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saffronhare.livejournal.com
Years can be measured in months, too. When we bought the house, we knew there was lots to do, so none of these things are really suprises. Except for the getting pregnant and all the financial fun that entailed. Anyway.

It's sort of an incremental plan. We can only do so much prep before we're stalled until foundation work is done. Then, budgets will determine how other stuff will proceed over the next few years. I'm focusing mostly on the stripping down phase for now.

Re: Months? Looks like years...

Date: 2004-01-05 08:48 am (UTC)
ext_3038: Red Panda with the captain "Oh Hai!" (Default)
From: [identity profile] triadruid.livejournal.com
Years can be measured in months, too.

Touché.

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capriciouslass.livejournal.com
Me too please? I've been trying to find someone to help me put the deck back on the the back of the house (watch that first step out the sliding glass doors folks, it's a lulu!)...
Though I can offer my services with stripping and painting. I did that to the kids' rooms a couple of years back.

Now there's an idea for Craft Circle...

Date: 2004-01-05 09:02 am (UTC)
ext_3038: Red Panda with the captain "Oh Hai!" (hiiiii.... - from Lilo & Stitch)
From: [identity profile] triadruid.livejournal.com
Roving hordes of mechanically-inclined pagans with power tools... I think I've seen this movie. :)

Re: Now there's an idea for Craft Circle...

Date: 2004-01-05 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zylch.livejournal.com
All I need are the tools, man. I've got no hesitation when it comes to using 'em. ::drooling daydream of the Bosch 24V cordless set::

Re: Now there's an idea for Craft Circle...

Date: 2004-01-05 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capriciouslass.livejournal.com
Pagans with Power Tools... There's an idea for a new reality show for HGTV.

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zylch.livejournal.com
drool at the chance of doing some good ole hands on home remodeling

Anything that involves knocking down walls, I'm all for. And I learned the basics of drywalling on the last Habitat house, too!

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 09:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saffronhare.livejournal.com
We've got some skills, we handy pagans do. I'm good at lost of stuff as well, but prefer not to use power tools (inexplicably, they make me break out in a nervous sweat). I'm good for lifting and moving heavy things as well as tedious detail handwork.

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
I have yet to learn to do much repair work, but I've got plenty of painting and refinishing experience. Of course, if some of you clever creatures would be willing to take the time to teach me to do other stuff, I'm always looking to acquire new skills.

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saffronhare.livejournal.com
Much of what needs doing now doesn't really require much skill. Just force applied over time. (Sound familiar?) "Here. Do this. Now keep doing it until it's done." Good thing I'm pretty darn close to ambidextrous.

And when there's only one wallpaper steamer and one heat gun, work gets done in rotations, not en masse. Having a group of people over to help would likely mean taking turns working, preparing food, entertaining kids and rubbing sore muscles. Real destruction and construction will come later.

That said, I'm sure there are lots of people who would be happy to help [livejournal.com profile] chaosdruid lasso her porch to the house sooner rather than later. :)

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diermuid.livejournal.com
Teach you to do other stuff? I just learned to fix stuff by destroying it. Here is my seven-step learning process:

1) destroy something. Either by hitting it with the souped up lawn tractor or simply by picking at it with vigour.
2) get the Home Depot book on the subject and spend a few good sessions in the reading room (a.k.a. restroom) and learn all you need to know.
3) destroy/pick at the remnants to see how it was originally put together
4) make a list and go to Home Depot to get supplies.
5) curse at the Bannister Home Depot for never being open when I need suppies, then to to Lowe's and find better stuff, cheaper. Pick up a 'spare' tool or two for a project that you hadn't planned on, but want to do now that you saw the display by the registers.
6) Set the tools and supplies right inside the front door, and become distracted by some pressing engagement (damn Neoquest!)
7) when someone trips over tools and starts yelling, quickly apply all you have read about an make the repair.

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Hey, I got 1, 4, and 5 down already. :)

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zylch.livejournal.com
We can fix that. Start ya off small with a My Little Drilly (6V), nothing too dangerous, then work up to a 14.4 jigsaw, and before you know it you'll be using a pneumatic nail gun contractor-style (trigger held down so that you use the safety to shoot). If I can teach a bunch of first-years how not to fear the Power of the Tool, I can teach you :-)

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Hey, I can deconstruct a set with the best of them - it's the putting things together that I know little to nothing of.

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zylch.livejournal.com
Wanna go build a porch? If you know how to use a drill in reverse, forwards isn't hard to master at all :-)

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Sure. Just as soon as it ceases to be F*!King freezing out.

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saffronhare.livejournal.com
I've got a nice heat gun for you, dear. Plus, the humidity from the wallpaper steamer will be good for your skin. Plenty of fantabulous taco dip for everyone...

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm more than willing to be put to useful work inside. Especially if you'll feed me in the bargain.

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zylch.livejournal.com
Food? Did I hear mention of food? I'm willing to forego massive destruction if there's food involved instead...

Seriously, holler if you want a hand. If the choice is to make a mess of y'all's place or clean my own up... well, entropy is easier than encosmy.

Help Please

Date: 2004-01-05 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drummel.livejournal.com
umm....guys....I'm kinda frozen to my seat and desk right now...I'm having to type this using my tongue..and oddly enough this keyboard tastes like Wiccan...but anyway...getting back to the subject; What power tool would you suggest to help pry a frozen body out of a chair? Your assistance will be appreciated.. that is.. *eww,,a hair* All.

Re: Help Please

Date: 2004-01-05 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
No, see, what you want to do there is have [livejournal.com profile] saffronhare come over and sit on your lap for a bit... more blood to the lower regions = more heat, more heat melts the ice, and you're out of your chair - it's that easy :)

Re: Help Please

Date: 2004-01-05 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zylch.livejournal.com
wonderbra, of course.

Err, I meant wonderbar. Whichever gets you up quicker.

Re: Help Please

Date: 2004-01-05 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zylch.livejournal.com
wunderbar, wunderbar, there's a bright and shining star...

wonderbar, n. A hand tool resembling a crowbar, but made from a flat bar instead of a hexagonal bar. It generally has a hooked end, a flat end, and a cut-out for pulling nails on the central bar. Also called a prybar. The wonderbar is often nicknamed a "wonderbra" in theatre departments because both are used to 'lift and separate' things.

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 11:09 am (UTC)
ext_3038: Red Panda with the captain "Oh Hai!" (Default)
From: [identity profile] triadruid.livejournal.com
Sorry, did you just say 'hold the trigger down and use the safety as to shoot'?

I sit corrected: you are MUCH more dangerous in the shop than I am. I only tape down the trigger on tools that are not designed to send projectiles at high velocity.

Err, well done. (?!?)

Re: Woo!

Date: 2004-01-05 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zylch.livejournal.com
Nah, I'd never tape the trigger on a nail gun. That's sending in a trouble-request form signed in triplicate. I hold the trigger down with my finger, and tap the nose against what I want to nail. The tapping pushes the safety back, both contacts close, and BANG! Nailing is done.

I actually feel much safer using contractor-style shooting with larger nails, because it's less likely to doublefire. If you've ever tried to shoot a nail directly onto another nail, you know the kickback isn't a pleasant thing. And I never do the idiot trick of holding back the safety with one hand and firing into the air. I've seen the results of that once, and that was more than enough.

Ack! Too many sub-threads.

Date: 2004-01-05 10:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saffronhare.livejournal.com
Let's try to tackle these one at at time:
a. I seldom fail to offer food, beverage or a place to sit -- with a lap-warmer or without -- to anyone who is at my house for more than 3 minutes (it's a druid thing).
b. If you've been invited to my house more than 3 times, and have partaken of food and/or beverage, I take offense if you ring the doorbell and wait for me to let you in the door. I also typically see the "3 visit" threshold as the point where I will happily put you to work. Depending upon who you are, that could mean finding your own food in the kitchen when you want it, rallying dogs/children, finding music...or knocking down walls. You will also generally be welcome to help yourself to showers and naps as needed (it's a Cancer thing).
c. I love sitting in laps, especially when there's flesh to be warmed. I do not, however, taste like Wiccan.
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.
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Wait. This is a public post. ::humming::

Re: Ack! Too many sub-threads.

Date: 2004-01-05 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drummel.livejournal.com
Take 435 N. to the Claycomo Exit # 52A. Turn left at the Light, travel approx 1 1/2 mile and office will be on your left, Across from a small Diner. Up the Steps you will be facing two doors, the first is the G.M and secretary, to the left is the Field Representative office in which I am currently frozen. (patiently awaits your arrival)

Re: Ack! Too many sub-threads.

Date: 2004-01-05 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saffronhare.livejournal.com
Way to assume support, darling. I'll have to save those directions. :)

Re: Ack! Too many sub-threads.

Date: 2004-01-05 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capriciouslass.livejournal.com
I have a rule similar to your #b... If I'm expecting you over, please don't ring the bell, just come on in. We'll giggle at you if you do ring the bell. Also, mi casa es su casa. Rummage around in the kitchen, ask if you need help finding things. I tend to forget that people may not necessarily know where to find things in my kitchen...

Date: 2004-01-05 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kcwitch.livejournal.com
um...i'm not offering help but i noticed the "keep piano" part of this post. if you do indeed decide to not keep the piano i would love to take it off your hands. i will even have mac go fetch it from you. i've wanted to own my own real piano all my life so just keep that in mind. :)

Piano

Date: 2004-01-05 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saffronhare.livejournal.com
I'd say yes right away, but I don't know that you'd thank me. This particular upright been in the (not very dry) basement for goodnes-knows-how-long and probably needs a ton of work if it's ever to be functional. The darn thing is literally built into the wall that divides the basement in half. Basement work is also several months away. However, now that I know you want a piano, I'll keep an eye out for a decent one for you -- how's that?

Re: Piano

Date: 2004-01-05 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kcwitch.livejournal.com
kewl. thanks. :)

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